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in this economy. that is one of the reasons we had last schools, about 38 schools submitted this round, where 10 or 12 years ago, we had close to 40 or 50. >> let's move to the format. tonight these two gentlemen will be seated, as were the vice presidential contenders in 2000. why is that? >> the commission has studied long and hard over the years and we think the nature and tenor of discourse changes when you are seated around a table. we recommend this time as we did four years ago that all of the debate other than the town hall meeting, which is different, which will be next week, all of them are seated at a table. four years ago, senator obama and senator mccain asked us to do one with the podium. they did the same this time with the governor and the president. we are not going to argue about the format as long as they don't touch the integrity of the format itself. we think a better format in getting full discussion of issues in depth of discussion of issues is when you are seated at a table, rather than standing behind a podium. >> no one is more aware than you of all the discussion, and
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